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斯諾登在莫斯科做宅男 自稱(chēng)已經(jīng)取得勝利
Snowden 'an indoor cat' in Moscow, says he's 'won'

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斯諾登在莫斯科做宅男 自稱(chēng)已經(jīng)取得勝利

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Keeping a mostly low-profile as a US fugitive in Moscow, former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden has suddenly resurfaced in the media, saying he is confident his personal “mission is already accomplished” and he has “already won” after leaking NSA secrets. The challenge now, he believes, is to stress the importance of privacy and urge an end to mass government surveillance.

Snowden gave a more than 14-hour interview to The Washington Post, which says it’s the first he has conducted in person since arriving in the Russian capital in June. He follows that up by speaking directly to the British public in a televised message that will be broadcast Wednesday as an alternative to the queen’s annual Christmas speech.

Snowden told the Post he was satisfied because journalists have been able to tell the story of the US government’s collection of bulk Internet and phone records, an activity that has grown dramatically in the decade since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

“For me, in terms of personal satisfaction, the mission’s already accomplished,” he said in the interview, which was published online Monday night. “I already won.”

“As soon as the journalists were able to work, everything that I had been trying to do was validated,” Snowden told the Post. “Because, remember, I didn’t want to change society. I wanted to give society a chance to determine if it should change itself.”

Snowden also gave insight into his life in Russia, suggesting that he’s not getting out much by being “an indoor cat.”

Now, Snowden will set out why he believes mass surveillance by governments is wrong and note the importance of the debate his disclosures have ignited.

“The conversation occurring today will determine the amount of trust we can place both in the technology that surrounds us and the government that regulates it,” he says, according to excerpts from the message released by Channel 4. “Together we can find a better balance, end mass surveillance and remind the government that if it really wants to know how we feel asking is always cheaper than spying.”

The queen delivers Britain’s “Royal Christmas Message,” but Channel 4 has used its annual alternative version to give a platform to people as diverse as Iran’s then-President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad in 2008, and fictional characters including Ali G. and Marge Simpson in 1999 and 2004, respectively.

In his UK message, Snowden calls modern surveillance more invasive than any envisioned by “1984” author George Orwell, saying that children today will grow up without knowing what it means to have an unrecorded or private moment.

“That’s a problem because privacy matters, privacy is what allows us to determine who we are and who we want to be,” he says.

Snowden was interviewed by the Post in Moscow over two days by reporter Barton Gellman, who has received numerous leaks from Snowden. The interview was conducted six months after Snowden’s revelations first appeared in the Post and the Guardian newspaper.

Gellman described Snowden as relaxed and animated over two days of nearly unbroken conversation.

In June, the Justice Department unsealed a criminal complaint charging Snowden, a former NSA contractor, with espionage and felony theft of government property. Russia granted him temporary asylum five months ago.

The effects of Snowden’s revelations have been evident in the courts, Congress, Silicon Valley and capitals around the world, where even US allies have reacted angrily to reports of US monitoring of their leaders’ cellphone calls. Brazil and members of the European Union are considering ways to better protect their data and US technology companies such as Google, Microsoft and Yahoo are looking at ways to block the collection of data by the government.

Snowden, now 30, said he is not being disloyal to the US or to his former employer.

“I am not trying to bring down the NSA, I am working to improve the NSA,” he said. “I am still working for the NSA right now. They are the only ones who don’t realize it.”

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一向行事低調(diào)的美國(guó)逃犯、美國(guó)國(guó)家安全局承包商前雇員愛(ài)德華?斯諾登突然又出現(xiàn)在了媒體面前。泄漏美國(guó)國(guó)家安全局的機(jī)密之后,斯諾登相信自己的“使命已經(jīng)完成、已經(jīng)贏了。”他相信,目前的挑戰(zhàn)是,增強(qiáng)公眾的個(gè)人隱私意識(shí),大家攜手終結(jié)政府監(jiān)控。

斯諾登接受了《華盛頓郵報(bào)》長(zhǎng)達(dá)14小時(shí)的采訪,這是他自6月份抵達(dá)俄羅斯首都以來(lái),第一次個(gè)人專(zhuān)訪。之后,斯諾登又錄制了一期英國(guó)電視臺(tái)節(jié)目,他將會(huì)在25號(hào)英國(guó)女王伊麗莎白二世的年度圣誕致辭播出的時(shí)段發(fā)表“另類(lèi)的圣誕致辭?!?/p>

斯諾登告訴《華盛頓郵報(bào)》說(shuō),自己很滿意。因?yàn)椋襟w能夠把美國(guó)政府搜集大部分公民的上網(wǎng)記錄和電話記錄這件事情報(bào)道出來(lái)了。自從2001年9月11號(hào)的恐怖襲擊發(fā)生后,美國(guó)政府對(duì)公民的監(jiān)控就越來(lái)越嚴(yán)格。

23號(hào)網(wǎng)上發(fā)布的一期采訪中,他說(shuō):“就個(gè)人滿足感而言,我已經(jīng)完成了使命,我贏了?!?/p>

斯諾登告訴《華盛頓郵報(bào)》:“在記者們可以開(kāi)始他們的工作那一刻,我一直以來(lái)的努力都沒(méi)有白費(fèi)。因?yàn)椋涀?,我不想改變社?huì)。我想給社會(huì)一個(gè)機(jī)會(huì)去判定,是否應(yīng)該改變自身。斯諾登透露他在俄羅斯的生活時(shí),自稱(chēng)“家貓”,不常出門(mén)。

現(xiàn)在,斯諾登將闡述為什么他相信政府對(duì)公民的監(jiān)控是錯(cuò)誤的、為什么泄密引發(fā)的探討有重大意義。

摘錄自英國(guó)第四頻道電視臺(tái)的訊息中,他說(shuō):“今天的談話將決定我們對(duì)周?chē)萍际侄?、以及管理科技手段的政府的信任程度。大家團(tuán)結(jié)起來(lái)力量大,才能與政府力量抗衡。大家一起努力去結(jié)束政府監(jiān)控,提醒政府:如果真的想了解公眾想法的話,詢(xún)問(wèn)民意要比監(jiān)控實(shí)惠得多?!?/p>

傳統(tǒng)的圣誕致辭是英國(guó)女王發(fā)表的年度“皇家圣誕致辭”。但是,英國(guó)第四頻道在這一時(shí)段播出了“另類(lèi)圣誕致辭”。它給人們提供了一個(gè)平臺(tái)去體驗(yàn)不同版本的圣誕致辭。節(jié)目中分別發(fā)表圣誕致辭的有2008年伊朗總統(tǒng)馬哈茂德?艾哈邁迪-內(nèi)賈德、小說(shuō)虛構(gòu)人物Ali G和1990年和2004年動(dòng)畫(huà)片《辛普森一家》中的瑪琦?辛普森 (Marge Simpson )。

英國(guó)第四頻道電視臺(tái)的訊息中,斯諾登稱(chēng)現(xiàn)代的監(jiān)控范圍遠(yuǎn)比喬治?奧威爾(George Orwell)在經(jīng)典反烏托邦作品《1984》中預(yù)想的更為廣泛。今天的孩子們長(zhǎng)大后,將不知道隱私為何物。

他說(shuō):“那是一個(gè)問(wèn)題。因?yàn)殡[私很重要,隱私?jīng)Q定我們是誰(shuí)、我們想成為什么樣的人?!?/p>

斯諾登接受了《華盛頓郵報(bào)》記者巴頓?格爾曼 (Barton Gellman)為期兩天的采訪,采訪期間,斯諾登披露了大量機(jī)密信息。2013年6月,斯諾登第一次出現(xiàn)在媒體,為《衛(wèi)報(bào)》和《華盛頓郵報(bào)》披露機(jī)密信息。

格爾曼說(shuō),斯諾登在為期兩天的采訪中心情放松、充滿活力,談話基本上沒(méi)有終止過(guò)。

6月份,美國(guó)司法部接手了一起刑事訴訟,該訴訟指控美國(guó)國(guó)家安全局承包商前雇員斯諾登從事間諜活動(dòng)、盜竊政府財(cái)產(chǎn)。五個(gè)月前,俄羅斯為斯諾登提供臨時(shí)政治庇護(hù)。

斯諾登泄密對(duì)美國(guó)法院、國(guó)會(huì)、硅谷和世界各個(gè)國(guó)家政府的影響都很大。即便是美國(guó)的同盟國(guó),也對(duì)美國(guó)監(jiān)控該國(guó)領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人電話記錄的行為表示憤慨。巴西和歐盟成員國(guó)正在考慮能夠更好地保護(hù)國(guó)家數(shù)據(jù)不受美國(guó)監(jiān)控的方案。像谷歌、微軟和雅虎這些美國(guó)的科技公司也在尋找方案來(lái)阻止美國(guó)政府收集公司內(nèi)部數(shù)據(jù)。

30歲的斯諾登說(shuō),他沒(méi)有背叛美國(guó),沒(méi)有背叛前雇主。

他說(shuō):“我沒(méi)有試圖去推翻美國(guó)國(guó)家安全局(NSA),我致力于改善它。我仍然在為美國(guó)國(guó)家安全局效力,他們是唯一沒(méi)有意識(shí)到這些的人?!?/p>

(譯者 tootwo 編輯 丹妮)

 
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